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eMail Correspondence of 2008.04.10-11
with Reuven Prager ("Beged Ivri")

2008.04.10 1652; Paqid Yirmeyahu to Reuven Prager:

Shalom Ruvein,

I'd like to order 3 sets of your cheapest 2/3 x 1/3 Teimani + 1 XL set of the 2/3 x 1/3 Teimani…

Todah rabah,

Paqid Yirmeyahu
The Netzarim
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Ra'anana

2008.04.10 1821; Reuven Prager to Paqid Yirmeyahu:

From: Reuven Prager
To: Paqid Yirmeyahu, ha-Tzadiq
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Tekhelet

Shalom from Machane Yehudah!

I don't know what Teimani means. The tzitzith are untied.
G-d Bless,

Reuven Prager ("Beged Ivri")

2008.04.10 1724; Paqid Yirmeyahu to Reuven Prager:

Teimani = Yemenite. You sent me an email a few days ago in answer to my inquiry. (I think it's the same as Ramb"m.)

Note: Of course, it is the same. I was being conciliatory.

2008.04.10 1823; Reuven Prager to Paqid Yirmeyahu:

From: Reuven Prager
To: Paqid Yirmeyahu, ha-Tzadiq
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: Tekhelet

Shalom again. If you are paying by cc you can pay via www.paypal.com using my email address as my account #. Your total is 2 x $18. = 36. + $32. = 68. + $3. registered postage total $71.

G-d Bless,

Reuven Prager ("Beged Ivri")

2008.04.101816; Paqid Yirmeyahu to Reuven Prager:

I'm paying by Yisrakart [Israeli "Mastercard" credit card based in Israeli currency]. I've never used paypal [which requires an account in an American bank, which I haven't had in years] and would prefer to give you the numbers over the phone.

Note: My computer is regularly corrected over the internet by an atomic clock; always within 5 seconds or so of correct time. My response did not go out before the reply (as the times would seem to imply). It's apparent, below, that his computer is an hour fast as my reply of 1012 responds to his email of 1115.

2008.04.10 1823; Reuven Prager to Paqid Yirmeyahu:

From: Reuven Prager
To: Paqid Yirmeyahu, ha-Tzadiq
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: Tekhelet

i don't work with local banks, you can send me a check PAYABLE to:

Reuven Prager ("Beged Ivri")

2008.04.11 0951; Paqid Yirmeyahu to Reuven Prager:

It looks like you calculated 2 sets plus 1 XL? So I want to verify: you saw that I want 3 sets of the cheaper plus 1 set of the XL (all Teimani) right?

You don't accept checks in sheqalim from Israelis? Or do business with Israeli banks? Is it to avoid Israeli taxes or some ideological reason?

This prompted me to try to research your bio a bit and I discovered that, while you claim to be a Levite (as I've known many gentile Christians to do), I can't find anywhere that you're an Orthodox Jew in good standing with Orthodox rabbis, praying regularly in an Orthodox beit k'nesset. Rather, I read on the internet that, while you adhere to your own belief (which I've not found defined anywhere), you spend much time with churches and "messianics" (which I'm not despite appearances, so I can understand if you're not either) and I don't find an "About Me" bio on your website explaining your position. You didn't know what Teimani is.

Together, these raise some vexing questions, which, to avoid assumptions, confusions or rumors (which have often victimized me), I'd like to ask you directly. In additon to the question about Israeli banks and taxes, in which Orthodox beit k'nesset do you pray regularly and are you in good standing there? (I volunteer that I pray at beit k'nesset Moreshet Avot, Teimani, here in Ra'anana, where I've been a member in good standing for about 10 years. Mori Khaim will vouch for me. I also have a letter wishing me blessings and success from the (then) Chief Rabbi Mardekhai Eliyahu.)

Thanks again.

Assuming you're in good standing with Orthodox rabbis,

Shabbat Shalom,
Paqid Yirmeyahu

2008.04.11 1115; Reuven Prager to Paqid Yirmeyahu:

Shalom from Jerusalem!

You can take your business elsewhere. Any moron knows that teimani is a nusach of tying and not dying.

Shabbat Shalom.

G-d Bless,

Reuven Prager ("Beged Ivri")

2008.04.11 1012; Paqid Yirmeyahu to Reuven Prager:

Subj: It's both, and I will.

(No other text was sent.)

Note that Mr. Prager has refused to answer both questions: about evading Israeli taxes (which, among rogue ideologues, typically implies a rejection of the government of Israel), and being in good standing with Orthodox rabbis and praying regularly in an Orthodox Beit ha-Kәnësët. The reader can draw his or her own conclusions. Clearly, however, if I hadn't known what I was talking about, Mr. Prager's ad hominem rant of "moron" is incompatible with a Torâh-keeping Orthodox Jew and clearly an animus evasion of reasonable questions and my sincere effort to avoid any unwarranted "assumptions, confusions or rumors." Consequently, the Nәtzârim don't accept the pәtil tәkheilët provided by Mr. Prager.

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